Most laws have been common since WW2, and I'm talking about something that wasn't forbidden before the new law. WW2 is a totally different case. That's two or more parties fighting for different ideals, and since the nazis lost, a lot of them got executed since justice prevailed.

Today, we have two or more parties or whatever is in charge to fully agree, and letting people know the new rules.

I don't mean rules like "for violence" and "against violence". That goes back to a war.

If you think in contemporary societies new founded laws do not apply to people who have offended against the crime before the new laws were instituted you are sorely mistaken....refer to new governments and governmental reconstruction established after the conclusion/drawdown of WW2...

Took me a while to understand your post completely, but this is the thing...
Communism is one thing, as you said, where class of society and capitalism doesn't work. And democracy, where the modern class and capitalism can exist. But in a decision of a confined ban(i.e including site bans raised by rules), it's a law and it's punishable, and raising an issue that occured is only allowed when it has happened after the law was founded. Say that the new law wasn't going to get founded before the x-date which could be in a few days or months. If someone did something that was against the new law, but which wasn't against the old one, then that issue cannot be raised, since it happened before the new law was founded.

That is one of the primary rules of modern society. In cu's case, that wasn't followed. But then again, this only concludes that cu is not following either of the parts you spoke of. It's just simple rules too actually, follow the rules and you'll stay, break them and you'll face the consequences.

ye sorry was a wee bit drunk last night when I came home...just let all my feelings come out

EM//_Otional Va|iums_ wrote: [SA.fr]_kevinz wrote: cheaters = forever noobs. «Ðe|Мōŋ» Rayzor wrote: Is Thierry Henry banned? Because he cheated... lol Rayzor ^^I hear you; a shame he was not caught EM//_Otional Va|iums wrote:Actually the system of subverting the power of decisions from a few to the entire community instead is communism. That is democracy. Not something the founding fathers of your country liked either. What the U.S. lives in and what was constructed by the founding fathers is not a pure democracy. In a pure democracy majority will overrules the sovereign, the tribunate (modern day judicial branch) and the legislative. What our founding fathers proposed is in reality a mix of a republic and a democracy combined, where the Fear of the mob and majority will can in fact be overridden in many cicumstances by the legislative and executive branch and most notably the judicial branch which often acts in contrast to the majority will (think U.S. Supreme Court decisions). Pure communism as proposed and invented by Marx is a state in which every government action is dictated and participated by every member of society, the sovereigns decisions remain solely dependant on people alone. As you see pure democracy and pure communism have been construed and tailored to fit needs of political leaders and philosophers of later on Debates on what is communism and what is democracy in the post modern age could last for ages but what is definable in this debate is the differences between pure democracy where capatalism and the modern monetary system can logically exist in democracy and pure communism where class based society and capatalism cannot...

Good that we only play HL² here.

btw in consideration of the general conditions find I the new rules well

[SA.fr]_kevinz wrote: cheaters = forever noobs. «Ðe|Мōŋ» Rayzor wrote: Is Thierry Henry banned? Because he cheated... lol Rayzor ^^I hear you; a shame he was not caught EM//_Otional Va|iums wrote:Actually the system of subverting the power of decisions from a few to the entire community instead is communism. That is democracy. Not something the founding fathers of your country liked either.

What the U.S. lives in and what was constructed by the founding fathers is not a pure democracy. In a pure democracy majority will overrules the sovereign, the tribunate (modern day judicial branch) and the legislative. What our founding fathers proposed is in reality a mix of a republic and a democracy combined, where the "Fear of the mob" and majority will can in fact be overridden in many cicumstances by the legislative and executive branch and most notably the judicial branch which often acts in contrast to the majority will (think U.S. Supreme Court decisions).

Pure communism as proposed and invented by Marx is a state in which every government action is dictated and participated by every member of society, the sovereigns decisions remain solely dependant on people alone. As you see pure democracy and pure communism have been construed and tailored to fit needs of political leaders and philosophers of later on Debates on what is communism and what is democracy in the post modern age could last for ages but what is definable in this debate is the differences between pure democracy where capatalism and the modern monetary system can logically exist in democracy and pure communism where class based society and capatalism cannot...

cheaters = forever noobs.

«Ðe|Мōŋ» Rayzor wrote: Is Thierry Henry banned? Because he cheated...

lol Rayzor ^^
I hear you; a shame he was not caught

EM//_Otional Va|iums wrote: Actually the system of subverting the power of decisions from a few to the entire community instead is communism.

That is democracy. Not something the founding fathers of your country liked either.

Yeah but shoobie 2 wrongs don't make a right

this is great! If you cheated you should get a CU ban perm. Its easy to say, ah well, its long time ago, you can come back. Sorry, they should have thought twice about using a cheat then. Cheating = ban, simple as that.

Good luck with this. The worst thing valve ever did for this game was to basically make it free. Now any player can just get a new steam account and download the game over. Hopefully, those with a little knowledge will report those aliasing with new accounts, but it will not be easy. This is a good step in the right direction though. I fucking hate cheaters. If it was up to me, no one with any basic skill in this game with a steam account less then a year old would be allowed to play unless they could show with a screenshot that it is their main account.

i know my comment is offtopic, but all i said about the news is mentioned before.
just want to answer yin this way <3 ;D for everything else u can open a topic

1) your opinion, not mine
2) yeah, read my last 10posts... damn^^
3) no problem for those pms, ty for urs, too... was a ns chat xD

still cant quote kenny

my grammar is much better than urs i know that even without reading ur posts

and second

my comment didnt refer to what ur post contained but more to your habit of posting here cause u always bring urself in when the community is fighting about sth so obviously ur english is even worse than i thought otherwise u would have understood me....but thx for ur nice pm's anyway...rly amusing


yeah well why even have admins? why dotn we jsut let everyone play on cu who wants to...war could play...reverse....nitro...warloxt.... i mean there is always a part of the community who wants sth the other part does and there will always be a conflict...just accept it the way it is if u think about it as being one of the players who are protected by the rule and not offended cause maybe u have a banned account or u have a very close friend then everything is cool

how can it not be made by community aswell. we are ones playing with the players just like you...

attI wrote: Bird wrote: I would made a poll at least... +1

That would be irrelevant, since this was a decision to make for the admins, not for the community.

Bird wrote: I would made a poll at least...

+1

That means the rules sucked in the first place. I wonder what's next.

cartelnebula wrote: its silly to ban players who were told they were unbanned tbh

It was silly to unban them in the first place. So sillynes could only get cured with some more sillyness.

its silly to ban players who were told they were unbanned tbh

I would made a poll at least...

Source Ban = CU ban is absolutely the best possible policy.
You can never prove someone DIDN'T cheat. Its philosophically impossible.
You can prove someone cheated with a source ban but its impossible to narrow it to DM, leaving Source bans as the standard is as fair and stern a policy as is needed.

And its BS that everyone has cheated at something at sometime. That is rationalizing nonsense.